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**R13** · August 9th, 2010, 04:29 PM

This is just the first I've heard of a favoritism argument against this .And it can be and probably is on the local levels, no one is against that, but the fed. can't and shouldn't extend a blanket law like that.

**Counts** · August 9th, 2010, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by R13

This is just the first I've heard of a favoritism argument against this .And it can be and probably is on the local levels, no one is against that, but the fed. can't and shouldn't extend a blanket law like that.

No the Fed should not be doing this at a local level it should be at a national level or not at all IF NYC or State wants to do something like this then that would be a differant story

**R13** · August 9th, 2010, 07:56 PM

Huh? They are acting on what they can, what they should and what they needed to do. Let the local incidents be taken care at the local level. This is a large federal issue and they are acting on it.

**Counts** · August 10th, 2010, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by R13

Huh? They are acting on what they can, what they should and what they needed to do. Let the local incidents be taken care at the local level. This is a large federal issue and they are acting on it.

Large yes but still local WHY is this a Fed issue and if it is why not other smaller but indvidualy just as devastating incadents?

**1inStripes** · August 10th, 2010, 04:50 PM

As I read this bill, it is not just for first responders. It is also for residents of New York who may have contracted WTC cough.

**CoeburnCane** · August 10th, 2010, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by 1inStripes

As I read this bill, it is not just for first responders. It is also for residents of New York who may have contracted WTC cough.

Fine by me too that they be covered. They were closest to the devastation of 9/11 and got the brunt of the ill effects that came from it.

This is one of those touchy things b/c I see where Counts is coming from...why aren't there coverages extended to those from other states who go and volunteer to fight wildfires in California?

The delineation I make between something like that and 9/11 is that those in Cali or helping w/Katrina cleanups are all volunteering for natural disaster/phenomenon, not an attack on the country as 9/11 was.

**1inStripes** · August 10th, 2010, 06:16 PM

Im not done reading it, but I can definitely see how that would raise the question though if residents are involved about illegals benefitting though.

**R13** · August 10th, 2010, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by Counts

Large yes but still local WHY is this a Fed issue and if it is why not other smaller but indvidualy just as devastating incadents?

It's a terrorist attack, the largest terrorist attack, it's obviously a federal issue. A person who has health problems outside of the normal, on duty risks, it would be taken care of on the local level...why would the federal government get involved in that? This was a federal issue to begin with, the local gov. isn't doing anything, they have to step in and they should. Your examples of here and there local matters can't and shouldn't be acted on by congress.

**Counts** · August 11th, 2010, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by CoeburnCane

This is one of those touchy things b/c I see where Counts is coming from...why aren't there coverages extended to those from other states who go and volunteer to fight wildfires in California?

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That is exactly what I am saying not that it makes a big differance in what actualy ends up getting passed one way or the other. To me it is EXTREAMLY sad that someone liveing IN NY would develop problems due to the 9/11 cleanup but to me it is NO better or worse than The illness from the Katrina cleanup or fighting wild fires....R13 mentioned that the Feds need to get involved now becouse 9/11 was an attack on our countly.....well Katrina had Gov built Dykes that failed and most of the Wild Fiers out west are on National forst property so again why not cover the people in those situations too?

**Milk3** · August 14th, 2010, 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by R13

These workers aren't just suffering from regular, everyday hazards of the job. It's just like soldiers benefits IMO. The regular coverage they had as just firefighters or whatever, doesn't cover most of what they suffer from. There were plenty that weren't on the clock, but rushed in anyway, but are denied compensation because they weren't on the job. This bill is about as common sense as it gets.

You believe in fighting for these people when the Dems are supporting it but you don't care that a mosque is being built near where all the people served and got ill at ? If it wasn't for that religion we wouldn't have the problem in the first place.